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Ayame Tao
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:32:00 -
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Hi all
I've searched for Federation Navy Tags to no avail on both here and Google, so I imagine somebody here would know
What's a good method to accumulate these tags? Considering you need a fair number of them, and that they can go for what I consider to be silly money on the Market, I'd rather go out and get some.
It's almost less hassle to just buy a Navy Invul off of contracts than from the LP store. At 300 million for tags, plus 72 million for the LP store price, its only 100 million more to buy one. That's less missions in ISK than it takes to get the LP for one.
I'm thinking Faction Warfare missions might be a good place to start
How much of a hammering will your derived standings take? I'd rather not sink below -2.5 really
So I'm thinking Faction missions with bursts of ratting or missions in Gallente space to keep the standings hurt to a minimum
Am I on the right lines with this or is there a better way? Sure I could set up cheap buy orders, but I'll probably do that as well
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Ayame Tao
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.25 15:24:00 -
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Thanks for the replies.
Its less a 'free minerals' issue and more of a 'I'm damned if I'm paying somebody 2 million ISK per tag' issue :)
Personally, I'm buying LP Store items to use them on my fits rather than as a source of income, I don't feel there's enough profit in it for the work as I don't blitz enough L4's to have LP items dripping from every surface.
Just trying to be self sufficient and have nice shinies. It's no problem to drop a few PLEX and go mad shopping and buy shinies all day, but that kinda defeats the point of playing the game (IMO)
I don't mind venturing into lowsec, so I'll keep an eye out for Enemies Abound and stick up some buy orders away from the main hubs and see what happens.
I'd rather not be KOS to any of the Empire factions, so I'll see how bad a hit Enemeies Abound gets me. |
Ayame Tao
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.25 15:49:00 -
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Tenchuu Khaan wrote:Well if you need Caldari tags you have to run missions for Gallente or Minmatar.
Enemies Abound always spawns enemy faction ships and they of course drop their insignias, not Caldari. Also it takes quite some time to totally **** up your standing and with some points in Diplomacy you are pretty much set.
Its Gallente tags I need for the Caldari LP store.
I'll put some levels in Diplomacy too.
:)
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Ayame Tao
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:12:00 -
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I think it definitely needs looking at - the Tag requirements are too high I feel. |
Ayame Tao
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.26 08:12:00 -
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Once I've got my standings to 8.0 for the corps I'm running missions for (Caldari Navy and Spacelane Patrol) so I can get tax free refining/reprocessing and jump clones (yeah, I know I could buy them or use a 0.0 station, but self sufficiency here :) ) then I think I'm gonna change to running missions for Mordu or Thukker or ORE even as they have their own implant based LP stores that are pretty useful and don't have silly tag requirements.
Yeah, I do agree that it is a very difficult situation to improve. Pretty much any action taken would negatively impact market values of LP items and Tags and a lot of people would be pretty upset.
Personally, I think the Tag requirements for LP store items should be about 50% of what they are. Reasoning for this is that this would keep them at a not trivial to acquire amount without them being (as I feel they are now) prohibitive in time/reward, risk/reward and associated issues.
Granted, this makes me seem like a big fat carebear having a whinge, but that's not my intention. I'd just like to see the LP store be a viable source of personal use equipment. |
Ayame Tao
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.26 15:46:00 -
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BrutalButFair wrote:One hint: "Who are the enemy's of the caldari state" 
Doesn't :
Ayame Tao wrote:Its Gallente tags I need for the Caldari LP store.
And :
Ayame Tao wrote: Federation Navy Tags.
Cover this already?
I'm all for pirating a bunch of wishy washy, libertarion, hippy surrender monkeys any day, but I'm not sure how that helps .
Unless you're offering reasonable rates for finders fees?
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Ayame Tao
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.26 16:46:00 -
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Zhilia Mann wrote:Having said all that, I wouldn't be adamantly opposed to imposing a much higher ISK cost for the same items, to the tune of making it more cost effective to buy the tags but giving an opportunity to sink large amounts of cash from the economy instead. Keeping that balanced sounds like a major headache though, and I haven't been all that happy with any of the dynamic market balancing solutions CCP has tried in the past (does anyone actually know what mineral costs insurance is actually tied to these days?).
I'd fully support that too.
Like it is now, some items have two options; a high ISK cost and no (or reduced) secondary requirements (or Nexus chips for ships) and a lower ISK cost with extra items required.
Or just have LP stores run entirely off LP+ISK so a proper, consistant and measurable ancillary income can be made and have the secondary requirement items provide other benefits. Maybe turn them in for standings like pirate tags or turn them in for LP like nexus chips.
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